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Old 10-06-2005, 04:51 PM   #1

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Google Page Rank Updates


Many webmasters are obsessed with the Google Page Rank. Articles and books have been written about Google PR (Page Rank). Forum postings cover the topic over and over again and about every 3 months tensions are rising when a possible Page Rank update is eventually happening. Page Rank updates are an interesting experience watching a small group of webmasters go a little crazy.

It all starts with somebody noticing the PR update in progress. This event will find its way into forums and newsgroups fast. Within minutes and hours the Internet community becomes aware of a Page Rank update. As Google.com uses several different data centers for its search engine services and also updates them in different intervals webmasters all over the world will see different results when looking for Page Rank results. A Page Rank update will also not complete within an hour or a day. For several days results will fluctuate.

With that in mind it is a funny event watching the hype surrounding a PR update. Webmasters get nervous if the PR of their website suddenly changes. A change can mean that the PR completely disappears or that the webmaster sees different (conflicting) results. As a high Page Rank can mean higher amounts of traffic and eventually higher income from a website this event often feels like a rollercoaster ride for the people who depend on having a successful website. Imagine the website you worked for so hard suddenly going up and down in Page Rank during a PR update. Now the same people start posting questions and comments in forums and newsgroups. The more experienced webmasters know the game and react professionally. They know that the publicly visible Page Rank is just a moment in time to display a snapshot of what is in Google's database. They know that PR actually updates daily or weekly internally, but that these more frequent updates do not show up as publicly visible PR updates. But no matter how often it is pointed out that the publicly visible PR is not important - the hype around this topic by a large group of webmasters does not quiet down. "How many links does it take to get a PR 5?" - "Why does my PR suddenly went down? I added x number of back links to my site." - "I hate Google for doing this." - These and many other comments or questions will show up. But in the end it all comes down to: Public PR is just a snapshot in time of what is in Google.com's database. PR changes much more often than what is showing up in the Google Toolbar.

And so it comes as no surprise that about every 3 months the tensions go high up in newsgroups and online forums when it comes to discussing Google Page Rank. If you are on the hunt for a high Page Rank for you site - don't waste time looking for the publicly visible PR. Use the time the others need to discuss PR to actually work on the Page Rank for your site. Establish high quality back links to your site. Grow these numbers slowly. A large increase in a short amount of time is not natural. Back links grow slowly and that is what Google is looking for. Be smart - be in it for the long run and not some short-term PR gain that won't last.

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Old 10-08-2005, 07:48 PM   #2

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Well this is really useful article.Thanks For posting it here.
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Here's a link for people who ask the ever popular question, "How many backlinks do I need to get a PageRank of X?": http://www.compar.com/infopool/artic...lculation.html. The guy attempted to create a chart which would give you an idea of how many backlinks you need to get a PR.

I know I'm being picky, but it's actually "PageRank" and not "Page Rank". PageRank is a registered trademark and was actually named after one of the founders of Google, Larry Page. The name is not supposed to mean "this page's rank".
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Well, that's a great chart. Question (sorry if its on the article, I currently only have a bit of time and can't read the whole thing.): Is this total links, or just backlinks from Google?

Heh, according to that chart, it makes a PR 2 into a PR 5, but, Google hasn't updated yet, so it might even be mroe than that.
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heres the dates for the pagerank updates: http://www.seocompany.ca/pagerank/pa...date-list.html

Also your website's PR is not based soley on the number of backlinks, specifically GBPR (google bar page rank) is based on many different thing, out going links, incoming links, quality of site content etc.
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Incoming links = backlinks

Call me crazy...but PR has nothing to do with the quality of your content, am I right? Sure, if your content is of a higher quality, more people will link to you...but then we're simply talking about backlinks again. If you are talking about the quality of the content on the site that is linking to you, that is different, because that is very much a concern.

Outgoing links? I'll be honest, I dont have the time or patience to read the link you provided...can you point out where it says that outgoing links affect PR? I figure, most of these things you are mentioning surely have a trickle down effect from backlinks, but ultimately, PR is a factor of how many backlinks you have and how good the quality of those links is.
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Doesn't it also matter if your backlinks have a high PR. Like if you submit to 50 PR 0 directories and search engine, what does that do??
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Yes, the PR of the sites linking to you does make a difference...the higher their PR, the better for you
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Everyone says that your PR is based on this, or that, or this and that. Well, none of the people telling you this know for sure. The fact is, Google hasn't told them any specifics. It is obvious through cause and affect that backlinks make a difference, but any chart that is telling you "X number of links will get you PRX" is full of it.

If you want more search engine hits, work on writing better content and use good web practices. Make good use of H1's, your page titles, relevant keywords for each page, even the title of your documents. There are tons of variables that will decide your search engine listing fate. So just sit back and write good content. After all, everyone who uses the internet is looking for one thing, content.
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