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Old 11-17-2005, 01:27 AM   #1
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US retains hold of the internet

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The US has won its fight to stay in charge of the internet, despite opposition from many nations.

In an eleventh-hour agreement ahead of a UN internet summit in Tunis, Tunisia, negotiators agreed to leave the US in charge of the net's addressing system.

Instead an international forum will be set up to discuss net issues, although it will not have any binding authority.

The deal clears the way for the summit to focus on how poorer nations can benefit from the digital revolution.

About 10,000 delegates, including world leaders, technology experts and campaigners, are expected at the three-day World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS) in Tunis.

International forum

Disagreements over control of the internet had threatened to overshadow the summit, with countries such as China and Iran pushing for a international body under UN auspices to oversee the net.

The US had stood firm against this, arguing that it would stifle technological advance and increase censorship of the internet by undemocratic regimes.

The Tunis deal leaves the day-to-day management of the net in the hands of the California-based Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (Icann), which answers to the US government.

Icann will keep its current responsibilities for overseeing domain names and addressing systems, such as country domain suffixes, and managing how net browsers and e-mail programs direct traffic.

The 170 nations taking part in the negotiations agreed on the creation of an Intergovernmental Forum to discuss all internet issues, such as spam, viruses and cyber crime.

"We did not change anything on the role of the US government with regard to the technical aspects that we were very concerned about," said the top US negotiator David Gross after the agreement.

Mr Gross said the forum would not have oversight authority nor would it do "anything that will create any problems for the private sector".

Its first meeting is likely be held in Athens, Greece, early next year.

Casting a wider net

The agreement on internet governance means that delegates at the Tunis meeting can focus on far governments have gone in their pledges for an "inclusive information society", set out two years ago at a first summit in Geneva.

Back then, nations pledged to make the net accessible to all by 2015. But worldwide only 14% of the population is online, compared to 62% in the US.

The Geneva summit disappointed many countries after the rich nations failed to back a Digital Solidarity Fund.

The fund, intended to help finance technology projects in developing countries, was formally launched earlier this year.

The voluntary fund has so far only raised $6.4m (£3.68m) in cash and pledges, so the UN will be hoping to encourage more contributions.

One effort which will receive much attention is the non-profit One Laptop Per Child group, set up by Nicholas Negroponte, chairman and founder of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology Media Labs.

It plans to produce up to 15 million sub-$100 laptops within a year. Professor Negroponte will unveil the prototype at the summit.

There will be hundreds of other projects, events, roundtables, high-level talks and exhibitions at the summit too.

There are other larger social justice issues to be tackled, such as how to ensure freedom of expression and information for everyone on the net, an issue which bloggers will be watching closely.

Ahead of the summit, there have been concerns about freedom of expression in Tunisia, following alleged assaults or harassment of journalists and campaigners on the sidelines of the event.

WSIS takes place in Tunis from 16 to 18 November.
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Old 11-17-2005, 01:35 AM   #2

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Meant to post a similar article myself. But I forsee this as being trouble. The US is opposed to things like a .xxx domain ending, and has an anti-"Obscenity" policy which makes me less than comfortable.
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Well I don't really see a point in a .xxx extension, but where is the harm in censoring the net? If a person cannot access obscen (porn) or any other objectionable materials from a store legaly then that person should not be able to access these materials through the net.......
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Well I don't really see a point in a .xxx extension, but where is the harm in censoring the net? If a person cannot access obscen (porn) or any other objectionable materials from a store legaly then that person should not be able to access these materials through the net.......
The point of the .xxx is to try an make it clear when the site you're visiting is pornographic. The original plan was to gradually force all porn sites to use it.

And as to censoring, it is a problem. They shouldn't be doing it in stores, but its even more problematic when its online, as in that instance, it affects a global audience, including countries which have no such laws. For example, a site, which I will not name for legal reasons, was one of the most popular erotic literature websites around, was recently taken off the net and is facing obscenity charges from the US government. Clearly, if the unjustifiably go after things like that, then they don't deserve the power being given to them. Personally, I'd like to see NL in charge, as we wouldn't have to worry about these web censoring issues.
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Well I for one can see the use for a .xxx extension. If every site with some sort of adult content in the internet uses it, then the filtering for this kind of sites would be much easier. Then regulation could be done in a personal basis, no need for a censoring entity.
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Thing is you would still get people not using it and trying to get away with not having to in much the same way as porn sites use lykos instead of lycos - which my son found out when trying to show his Mum one of his friends www site.... (hahahahahahah - she did understand though!!!)
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Thing is you would still get people not using it and trying to get away with not having to in much the same way as porn sites use lykos instead of lycos - which my son found out when trying to show his Mum one of his friends www site.... (hahahahahahah - she did understand though!!!)
Perhaps, but its not as though said extension can be any worse.
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Ah I see where you guys are coming are coming from now. I was thinking that the .xxx extension would be optional not mandatory.
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And as to censoring, it is a problem. They shouldn't be doing it in stores, but its even more problematic when its online, as in that instance, it affects a global audience, including countries which have no such laws. For example, a site, which I will not name for legal reasons, was one of the most popular erotic literature websites around, was recently taken off the net and is facing obscenity charges from the US government. Clearly, if the unjustifiably go after things like that, then they don't deserve the power being given to them. Personally, I'd like to see NL in charge, as we wouldn't have to worry about these web censoring issues.
Well more than one culture uses the net (as you said), and while one culture or country may support adult material others may not. To make sure everyone stays remotly happy we need to censor out some material as to not offend anyone.
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Well more than one culture uses the net (as you said), and while one culture or country may support adult material others may not. To make sure everyone stays remotly happy we need to censor out some material as to not offend anyone.
Hmmmm, whatever happened to freedom of choice Zach... why should one country govern what any other country is able to choose from?

Just because one thing is not available in one country doesn't mean it shouldn't be available in a country where it is legal! or have I misread your post?
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I have come to notice that whenever the word "censor" or any derivative of it is used, touches a very sensitive nerve. I personally don't enter the internet to be shielded of the "filth" and other objectionable content. The web has always been a repository for information. Free information. But it will always be tricky to define the line that divides the freedoms of the people that puts that objectionable content and the rights of the people that wants to shield itself or his loved ones from it. Unless we talk about the law. If any given site is breaking the law then there's no question about it, it must be shut down. I wouldn't call that censorship, it's regulation.
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