I think MyBB really requires a lot of knowledge to skin correctly, at least it's not as bad as SMF. Keeping templates in php functions? way to lock out any deisgner who doesn't know php.

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It's not nearly as bad as SMF. I was thinking about moving to SMF, but no thanks. I didn't care for their way of skinning at all.

With MyBB I guess you just need to be familiar with the call functions. It's not the greatest, but it's much better than what I've tried in the past.

There aren't many "real" themes or (significant) modifications available for MyBB. It's been a problem for way over a year or so. Not many modders or designers are making their way to MyBB and they've lost many talented modders due to (sometimes) slow development and/or conflict of interest.

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Oops, made a mistake - switch SMF and MyBB in my first sentance

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Might I remind everyone that MyBB is free, and it's programming is done for free by a group of dedicated PHP Programmers. Life first, MyBB Second.

People understand that man, but it seems like you're here on a tyrade of anger against people who don't enjoy your/MyBB software.

You should expect the people to look at themes, and modifications when they make their decisions. Whether you have other things to do or not, you are in competition with other forum software, and that is not a valid excuse.

phpBB is free, but they have quite the modification following.

SMF is growing in popularity and modifications as of late as well.

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tyrade of anger? lol far from it. I'm friends with a SMF developer and I've created mods for phpBB before and worked with them to bring down some people who were ripping their software.

Obviously I expect people to compare our software to others. phpBB has been in the forum market for a long time, so they will obviously have more modifications than others. Just like IPB and vB. SMF is more popular because... hell I don't know? It just is. Maybe because they have more staff, or their google page rank is higher than others?

My point is that ALL of the phpBB, SMF, PunBB, MyBB, et cetera developers provide free software. People don't care about the developers these days. They all want their questions answered within the hour, and expect the software to work 100%. They don't realize that if there weren't any phpBB or SMF or PunBB or MyBB, etc or some good hard working developers there would be no free forum software. They are taking for granted that we actually spend countless hours and years of programming to provide a competent forum software for free, at least recently imo.

My intepretation is that Rocket 442 is talking about a lack of third party mods and skins available for MyBB. These things do not come from the MyBB developers, they come from the MyBB community (users, freelance programmers, etc.).

The mod creators for phpBB, vB, IPB, and SMF don't get paid either. Granted, some of them offer paid mods, but the vast majority of mods come free of charge. Now...the phpBB, IPB, and vB userbases are all much larger than the MyBB userbase, so there are naturally going to be more mods there...As MyBB grows, so will the number of mods.

The fact that IPB and vB are paid software might help the amount of mods available some, but it doesn't have a huge impact, because a mod creator isn't getting paid regardless of whether the mod is for phpBB, MyBB, vB, or IPB

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I think that in the end for the thread starter's problem there is a way I also used: create a "wrap" like layout in photoshop, slice and code (tables since i don't know how to work with divs) and put the entire script in it as I did in the example I provided on the other page.

I know myBB is new on the "market" and is far from the huge number of mods and themes phpBB has, but I also understand our need of these. This is why, even if myBB is a good script out of the box, I am not that keen to use it anymore. I already ran into the "not finding what I want" problem in the mod community and this is the MAIN thing we have to "comment" on the script.

I don't want to turn it into a "script vs. script" issues since we have tends of such threads in here.

I would like to know how the theme finding quest is going. Anything new? Or will you just have to work on the default theme and try to make it as you wish?

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Well, I'm sorry, But what can I do about there not being enough mods/themes?

There's really not much that you can do.

You can, however, make sure that Chris at MyBB is aware of this problem. I don't know a whole lot about the marketing and promotion of forum software, but there may be something that he can do to encourage freelancers to come in and start developing skins and mods for MyBB. Make it easy for users to create and publish their own mods.

I think the biggest thing you and the rest of the MyBB team can do is continue to develop the software and attract as many new users to it as you can. As the userbase for MyBB grows, so will the number of mods and skins.

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