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How to Deal with Forum Cliques
Published by Ryan
10-17-2005
How to Deal with Forum Cliques


How to Deal with Forum Cliques


What is a forum clique?
Everybody will have their own definition of a clique, but the general concept is an exclusive group of members in your forums who are slow to welcome new members.

Why should I be concerned?
All visitors will read posts by these cliques, and this will in turn discourage many guests from ever registering and even discourage new members from saying hello. Sometimes when a new member will try to say hello, the veterans are quick to either ignore them or tell them they don't know what they're talking about. This is a nasty recipe for non-expansion.

What can I do?
Truthfully, this is one of the toughest problems you will ever face as a forum administrator. Disciplining these cliques is not easy because the members of the cliques are often close friends of staff. If you are too hard on the clique members, you risk losing them all together, which could be a serious hit for any community if the clique was at the root of the member base.
  • Allow introductions
    • It is important that your new members can "break the ice" with ease. Create a section for introductions in which members can introduce themselves to the community and get to know the current members. The first post is often the hardest for many members, but if you make it easy for new registrants, this will not be the case.
  • Staff friendliness (set an example)
    • Make it a point to all your administrators and moderators to welcome all new members and be very willing to fulfill any requests. Never let a post from a new member go unanswered. Your staff represents your forums; if your staff is not welcoming, do not expect your members to be.
  • Employ non-clique members
    • Find a regular member in the forums who is well respected, but not a part of the clique. Ask this person to inadvertantly "break up" any clique-like discussions. Odds are, the members of the clique will respect this person, ultimately ending these personal discussions.
  • Interviews
    • Each week, pick a random new member and interview him or her with interesting questions. Once finished, post this interview in public as to expose your clique members to your new members. Often times, your clique members will become interested in these new members and will want to find out more about them.
  • Personal contact
    • Contact each member of the clique one by one and explain the problem. Explain to them how it is harming the community, and ask that they please refrain from doing so. You might be surprised to find that your members never even realized what they were doing.
  • Keep clique discussions in private
    • Some owners will create a forum dedicated to these clique-like discussions, as to hide them from the public. Unfortunately this will often prove to not solve the problem completely, as your veterans will still find time to slip in their inside jokes to the public eye.
  • Punishment
    • If worse comes to worst, you might be forced to suspend members of the clique. Be very careful doing this, as you do not want to risk losing them in the long run.
  • Privacy is important
    • Try your hardest to keep this clique controversy out of public eye, as it leaves a bad impression on new members if they see your veterans are not even enjoying themselves. If you must make your point in public, do so once in a very short manner. Leave the rest to private and instant messengers.
Does anything good come of cliques?
Subtle cliques here and there are definitely good and encouraged in many communities. You want your potential members to see that your veterans enjoy themselves in your community, but you also need your potential members to feel welcome to join in. Do not encourage clique discussion at the expense of new members. Find an appropriate balance where your members can both have fun while welcoming new members to do the same.

Your task
Remember, your role as an admin is like that of a host to a party. Your job is to keep everyone happy and provide help when needed. If only part of your community is happy, you are not doing your job somewhere. Ask your members (both old and new) what you can do to make their stay more enjoyable - and act on this! Finally, remember that you are a community. All communities will naturally have individual groups, and that is not necessarily a bad thing. Do not, however, allow these groups to become noninviting and exclusive.

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By RLLbad on 10-18-2005, 01:19 AM
Good read, Hopefully I can get my article up soon.
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By Will on 11-11-2005, 04:27 PM
Great job very nice for future references
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By Sparta on 12-06-2005, 06:56 AM
If at the point where I have to worry about this, then I wont care.

If people are at the point where they can make cliques, then I have a forum that gets lots of members daily.

Cliques help weed out the idiots, I think. Take a look at forums.somethingawful.com. Very, very hortile to new people, and its arguably the best community out there.
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By Ryan on 12-06-2005, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Sparta
If at the point where I have to worry about this, then I wont care.

If people are at the point where they can make cliques, then I have a forum that gets lots of members daily.
This isn't necessarily true. The last forums I ran were gaming forums - they were formed by a group of people who had actively gamed together in the past. The forums were general gaming forums, but this base group of people only cared about their own game and themselves. I would say only 20 or so actively posted, 30-40 would come and visit every now and then. We would get new members, but not many...The members that we did get did not post very much, because it was obvious that they were ignored the majority of the time by this core group of members.

What I just described might be, and probably is, an exception though...that group of people knew each other pretty well before the forum even came about. If you are creating forums where nobody knows anybody else (which is usually the case), these cliques will typically take some time to form...probably at the point where, like you said, the member base is already quite large. It might not be a huge concern, probably not among the most important for you as an admin, but don't let it go unnoticed...these things can slowly tear away at your community
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By Caitlyn on 12-10-2005, 02:48 PM
Ryan, another great read. Interesting topic.
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By GizmoBird on 12-10-2005, 06:19 PM
Another point is that the Admin/Mod team can become a clique. We like to have fun on our board, but one time we were chasing (for lack of a better term) each other around our board and some of our new members where lost with what was happening. One even commented that was probably none of their business. This was not good and had to go back and explain what was happening. Anyway just wanted to mention that you want to be careful that your administrative team doesn't become a clique also.
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By Ryan on 12-10-2005, 06:54 PM
That point, GizmoBird, is illustrated here
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Originally Posted by Ryan
  • Staff friendliness (set an example)
    • Make it a point to all your administrators and moderators to welcome all new members and be very willing to fulfill any requests. Never let a post from a new member go unanswered. Your staff represents your forums; if your staff is not welcoming, do not expect your members to be.


That is another important point indeed, but hopefully it never happens naturally. Caitlyn, I'm glad you enjoyed it
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By paulwalker71 on 12-30-2005, 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Ryan
Each week, pick a random new member and interview him or her with interesting questions. Once finished, post this interview in public as to expose your clique members to your new members. Often times, your clique members will become interested in these new members and will want to find out more about them.
That's cool idea

Quite apart from the clique issue, its just a grea idea for building community on the site. People are notoriously nosey about other people!

That's an idea I'll certainly look to implement
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By Ryan on 12-30-2005, 01:51 AM
Good stuff, let us know how it goes

Who knows...we may actually do something like that here at AF some day
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