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Old 02-23-2006, 06:59 AM   #1
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It's nothing against you...We pick the top 10 based on post counts here at AF...the submissions with the top 10 post counts are accepted.

Stick around and submit again next month, Dstressed - you could have enough posts by then ...I believe the cut-off this time around ended up being ~30 posts...Anybody over 30 posts was accepted

hmmm shouldnt you choose the forum of the month based on design and content ? just because the forum admin that has most post on this site shouldnt be the reason why they get to join the top 10 in my opinion. it should be based on posts,members,staff and time of the site that has been pu in the race. if your doing it by posts on this site then its not really forum of the month ... its adminfusion member of the month and has nothing to do with his or her forum.

or am i missing something? if so please clarify. im just simply stating my 2 cents i hope i dont offend anyone.
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The forum of the month is not chosen based on AF post count, the 10 nominated forums are chosen based on AF post count....The actual forum of the month is chosen after a very long rating process. The reason we do that is because it would be impossible for us to review 40 forums...We have to narrow the list down somehow...that special number is 10. Because we cant review all 40 forums to come up with a top 10 and then review them again to get a top forum, we chose to base it on post count at AF...This ultimately means that those who are the most "loyal" to AF have the better chance at being nominated for Forum of the Month.

In addition to that, everybody has a pretty good chance, because a forum can only be nominated once every 3 months...so it's not as if the top 10 posts will steal the spots every month - because each month 30 forums will be ineligible for nomination...THAT means that you only have to be in the top 40 posters at AF (granted, that isn't the case these first few months)...anyways, I've been blabbering too much...Hopefully that sums up our reasoning behind that.

As far as the rating process...I do want to say that we do take this seriously...Every staff member reviews each forum once on a 1-10 scale in 6 different categories...After we do that, we take the top 3 forums and rate them once again. In addition to that second rating, each staff member gives a brief synopsis on each category for each top 3 forum...So you're talking about 60 ratings the first time around and 18 ratings/reviews the second time around. Multiply that by the number of staff members currently at AF and you are talking about nearly 500 individual ratings
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The forum of the month is not chosen based on AF post count, the 10 nominated forums are chosen based on AF post count....The actual forum of the month is chosen after a very long rating process. The reason we do that is because it would be impossible for us to review 40 forums...We have to narrow the list down somehow...that special number is 10. Because we cant review all 40 forums to come up with a top 10 and then review them again to get a top forum, we chose to base it on post count at AF...This ultimately means that those who are the most "loyal" to AF have the better chance at being nominated for Forum of the Month.

In addition to that, everybody has a pretty good chance, because a forum can only be nominated once every 3 months...so it's not as if the top 10 posts will steal the spots every month - because each month 30 forums will be ineligible for nomination...THAT means that you only have to be in the top 40 posters at AF (granted, that isn't the case these first few months)...anyways, I've been blabbering too much...Hopefully that sums up our reasoning behind that.

As far as the rating process...I do want to say that we do take this seriously...Every staff member reviews each forum once on a 1-10 scale in 6 different categories...After we do that, we take the top 3 forums and rate them once again. In addition to that second rating, each staff member gives a brief synopsis on each category for each top 3 forum...So you're talking about 60 ratings the first time around and 18 ratings/reviews the second time around. Multiply that by the number of staff members currently at AF and you are talking about nearly 500 individual ratings
sounds fair, not to mention pretty involved - I hope to be up there next month
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i see what your saying. i just wanted to hear your reason to why you based it on the top 10 AF posters. im sure when you evaluate the final 10 its a little more serious.

this is what i was trying to say

(example) an admin that has a better displayed site and a larger member base doesnt even get into your top 10 because he didnt post enough on your site. while another admin who went post crazy and has hardly any members and poor stlye does.

this takes away from the whole point of forum of the month. like i said its AF posting member of the month

(example) lets say the winning member/forum that wins this time didnt have as many posts. lets say for example the winning member didnt even make the top 10 cause if he had no posts ( in your eyes his forum wouldnt be chosen) so it really doesnt have anything to do with his forum. he made it to the finals due to posting alot. i hope im making sense lol
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I agree completely with you, BUT, right now our system works perfectly. The cut-off for posts this month was about 30. This means that in order to be nominated, all you needed was 30 posts at AF. Really, that is not much at all. If you were to be here for a week and made 5 posts per day (easy to do), you would have those 30 posts. Right now, while AF is still relatively small, I think the top 10 post counts works just fine.

Not to mention...dont you think that activity at AF should be a factor anyways? I would hate to see somebody brand new, with 5 posts, to win forum of the month, no matter how good his/her forum is...I'm not sure that we could consider any forum the AdminFusion Forum of the Month if the owner only has 5 posts at AF...I feel like they should at least be a semi-regular first because it is representative of the AF community - not the forum community.

I'm sure we will change the nomination procedures in the future, but probably not any time relatively soon...I dont mind at all limiting nominees to those with 30+ posts
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I agree completely with you, BUT, right now our system works perfectly. The cut-off for posts this month was about 30. This means that in order to be nominated, all you needed was 30 posts at AF. Really, that is not much at all. If you were to be here for a week and made 5 posts per day (easy to do), you would have those 30 posts. Right now, while AF is still relatively small, I think the top 10 post counts works just fine.

Not to mention...dont you think that activity at AF should be a factor anyways? I would hate to see somebody brand new, with 5 posts, to win forum of the month, no matter how good his/her forum is...I'm not sure that we could consider any forum the AdminFusion Forum of the Month if the owner only has 5 posts at AF...I feel like they should at least be a semi-regular first because it is representative of the AF community - not the forum community.

I'm sure we will change the nomination procedures in the future, but probably not any time relatively soon...I dont mind at all limiting nominees to those with 30+ posts
sounds good. but just to add i rather have a member with 5 posts win Forum of the month cause were basing it on his site not the posts.

thank you for your responses and i do understand what your saying. im sure it will work. i dont see anyone else asking Questions about your methods. so i guess well see next month since everyone who reads this will make sure before they submit theyre site to have 30 posts.

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*I decided to split these posts from the February nominations thread....since we were going off topic, but this is definitely something that should be discussed*

Just wanna make sure you didn't interpret what I said incorrectly...the 30 posts example only applies to this month. The next month could be higher or lower - it just depends on how high the post counts are of the submitted forums.

Like I said, we'll probably revise the nomination process later on down the road, but probably not until we see forums with a high post count not having a chance at nomination...

Finally, regarding the whole AF activity thing....Not only do we want the nominees to be members of AF who represent AF - but as you can see, the rating process is pretty grueling...why would we want to go through all of this work to award the prize to somebody with 10 posts at AF? Somebody who could very well come here, submit their forum, win the prize, and leave to never come back - The prize is wonderful exposure...so that kind of thing is obviously very enticing. Do you not agree that this is the AdminFusion forum of the month - not just any forum of the month?

LOW, I have to ask - how else would you go about doing this? Something that is both a realistic method - but also gives everybody an equal chance?
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i would probably have a limit for the forums that were applying. like boxing there are weight classes. you could have a 1 year ,9 month,6 month old categories. or switch it around in some other way.

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go by posts and or members. that way you could really see how the forum members interact and how the forum is working. i think you should base the nomination on how it works and how easy it is to find what you need.

or maybe forums with less that 1000 members can not apply. something that points out to a successful forum. if a forum has 80 members or 200 and theres no traffic , how can you make that your AF of the month?


(example) forums with more than 2000 members apply here

and members with less than 6 months apply here.

that way youll have different classes and youll always have forums moving in classes , because they will grow and move on to the next one. just like moderators, supermoderators and admins.

hope this helps and if not im sure we can come up with something lol. but i do see your reasons for doing it the way are.
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