1 Week Later - PF Suggestions?

**Ryan** · 05-23-2007, 11:58 PM

So, it has now been about one week since we implemented the new PostFusion ranking system. There were a few bugs in the beginning along with many confused and disoriented members. This was really a huge change for PostFusion, as it completely changed the PF horizon. We are still confident that this was definitely a change for the better, and we hope that things will only get better from here on out. There have been over 1,500 posts exchanged in less than 1 week. So we are now averaging over 200 posts per day, whereas before we were averaging just 25-50. Sure, a lot of this is due to the "excitement factor" associated with a new system, but remember:

1) We are still adjusting the formula so that it works better
2) We have done 0 advertising of the new system outside of PF

Now, that said, we want feedback from those of you who have used the new system. What do you like? What do you not like? We are going to create a FAQ that explains the rankings much better, and we will soon start advertising PF elsewhere. Before we do this, we want to know what you think we should do in order to make it more appealing to forum owners. What could we have done for you that would have made things more clearer or kept you from running away?

NOTE: We are looking for input on the current system. We are not asking for feature requests or another rewrite/revamp. This formula/activity-based ranking system is here to stay, and we want to know what we can do to make it look more appealing and also easier for new users to understand.

**Moelman** · 05-24-2007, 12:01 AM

I almost think that forums climb and fall too easily. Maybe its better this way because people will post more but when I used it one day my forum and the forums I was posting at could climb and fall with only a few posts it seemed. But I guess these forums were the top 3 on the list.

But I'm really liking it overall, a much better system than it was previously.

**Lpspider** · 05-24-2007, 03:29 AM

I agree. I think they fall/rise WAY too easy. Make it harder.

And obviously, the more sites, the better.

**LarryB** · 05-24-2007, 05:00 AM

The more sites, the more posting the harder it will be to make them go up and down.

**Sir TVDinner** · 05-24-2007, 11:48 AM

I agree with the posts above about the rising and falling thing. After working really hard and making 400 posts since the new system started, I basically stopped posting for 4 hours while I was away from my computer (imagine that, lol) and fell from the top area of the list all the way to the second page. Seems like it is to easy to fall once you reach the top few sites.... just my opinion.

**Ryan** · 05-24-2007, 11:56 AM

That had to have been a bug that has since been squashed. There is no way you would make 400 posts and then 4 hours later fall 25+ spots unless you did indeed receive 200+ posts in 4 hours. If there were hundreds of forums active in PF, that may be possible, but not with how many forums we have right now. Actually, before I get myself in trouble...this could possibly happen. If you make 400 posts at the bottom 10 forums and then receive 100 posts while you are at the #1 spot, you could potentially drop to below where you started.

Remember...we're getting upwards of 250 posts per day in PF. That's ~10 posts per hour. If you start at 0 and make 40 posts....6 hours later, 60 or so posts have been made. If 40 of those posts were made in your forum, then you're going to drop close to where you started, if not below where you started.

What I'm trying to say is, the same amount of activity that you were using with the old system is not going to keep you at the top with the new system. It's a combination of more PF activity and it being harder to maintain the #1 spot.

However, having said all of that, I do have an idea that might help prevent people from rising and falling as fast, and I will discuss it with Larry.

**Sir TVDinner** · 05-24-2007, 12:15 PM

that's ok - I am not complaining, just participating in the thread. You asked to make suggestions so the main part of my post was agreeing with the others about dropping very fast.

**Canadian** · 05-24-2007, 08:19 PM

I think as more forums sign up, things will 'level out' a bit.

**bdude** · 05-25-2007, 07:59 AM

Yeah, at the moment I think it's way too easy to move dramatically up and down the list, maybe until there are more forums, only update the balances say every 7-8hours

**Ryan** · 05-25-2007, 11:17 AM

ewww...I would hate that as a PF user. You'd have no idea where you stand.

05-24-2007, 12:01 AM	#2
Moelman The Webmaster Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 3,328	I almost think that forums climb and fall too easily. Maybe its better this way because people will post more but when I used it one day my forum and the forums I was posting at could climb and fall with only a few posts it seemed. But I guess these forums were the top 3 on the list. But I'm really liking it overall, a much better system than it was previously. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. - The Largest LucasArts Gaming Community on the Internet To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. - tell me your comments! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. - Your #1 place to discuss all things World of Warcraft.

05-24-2007, 03:29 AM	#3
Lpspider Forum Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,338	I agree. I think they fall/rise WAY too easy. Make it harder. And obviously, the more sites, the better. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. \| To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

05-24-2007, 05:00 AM	#4
LarryB AF Lead Developer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: OHIO, US Posts: 1,186	The more sites, the more posting the harder it will be to make them go up and down. __________________ Do not post your PF private key in public. Did I help you with this post? If so, pls click the rep button or send money. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

05-24-2007, 11:48 AM	#5
Sir TVDinner Veteran Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: USA Posts: 960	I agree with the posts above about the rising and falling thing. After working really hard and making 400 posts since the new system started, I basically stopped posting for 4 hours while I was away from my computer (imagine that, lol) and fell from the top area of the list all the way to the second page. Seems like it is to easy to fall once you reach the top few sites.... just my opinion. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Promote your forum for FREE. Directory for Forums. OVER 2000 forums currently on the Forum Directory. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

05-24-2007, 11:56 AM	#6
Ryan Forum Guru Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 10,256	That had to have been a bug that has since been squashed. There is no way you would make 400 posts and then 4 hours later fall 25+ spots unless you did indeed receive 200+ posts in 4 hours. If there were hundreds of forums active in PF, that may be possible, but not with how many forums we have right now. Actually, before I get myself in trouble...this could possibly happen. If you make 400 posts at the bottom 10 forums and then receive 100 posts while you are at the #1 spot, you could potentially drop to below where you started. Remember...we're getting upwards of 250 posts per day in PF. That's ~10 posts per hour. If you start at 0 and make 40 posts....6 hours later, 60 or so posts have been made. If 40 of those posts were made in your forum, then you're going to drop close to where you started, if not below where you started. What I'm trying to say is, the same amount of activity that you were using with the old system is not going to keep you at the top with the new system. It's a combination of more PF activity and it being harder to maintain the #1 spot. However, having said all of that, I do have an idea that might help prevent people from rising and falling as fast, and I will discuss it with Larry. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. - Professional vBulletin Skins

05-23-2007, 11:58 PM	#1
Ryan Forum Guru Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 10,256	1 Week Later - PF Suggestions? So, it has now been about one week since we implemented the new PostFusion ranking system. There were a few bugs in the beginning along with many confused and disoriented members. This was really a huge change for PostFusion, as it completely changed the PF horizon. We are still confident that this was definitely a change for the better, and we hope that things will only get better from here on out. There have been over 1,500 posts exchanged in less than 1 week. So we are now averaging over 200 posts per day, whereas before we were averaging just 25-50. Sure, a lot of this is due to the "excitement factor" associated with a new system, but remember: 1) We are still adjusting the formula so that it works better 2) We have done 0 advertising of the new system outside of PF Now, that said, we want feedback from those of you who have used the new system. What do you like? What do you not like? We are going to create a FAQ that explains the rankings much better, and we will soon start advertising PF elsewhere. Before we do this, we want to know what you think we should do in order to make it more appealing to forum owners. What could we have done for you that would have made things more clearer or kept you from running away? NOTE: We are looking for input on the current system. We are not asking for feature requests or another rewrite/revamp. This formula/activity-based ranking system is here to stay, and we want to know what we can do to make it look more appealing and also easier for new users to understand. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. - Professional vBulletin Skins

05-24-2007, 12:15 PM	#7
Sir TVDinner Veteran Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: USA Posts: 960	that's ok - I am not complaining, just participating in the thread. You asked to make suggestions so the main part of my post was agreeing with the others about dropping very fast. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Promote your forum for FREE. Directory for Forums. OVER 2000 forums currently on the Forum Directory. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

05-24-2007, 08:19 PM	#8
Canadian Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver Posts: 83	I think as more forums sign up, things will 'level out' a bit.

05-25-2007, 07:59 AM	#9
bdude Forum Addict Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 1,628	Yeah, at the moment I think it's way too easy to move dramatically up and down the list, maybe until there are more forums, only update the balances say every 7-8hours __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

05-25-2007, 11:17 AM	#10
Ryan Forum Guru Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 10,256	ewww...I would hate that as a PF user. You'd have no idea where you stand. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. - Professional vBulletin Skins

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